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发表于 2014-5-14 09:03:48 |显示全部楼层
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/c ... er_analysistesting/

大狗戒:

1. 伤害直接跟你最多能招的狗的数目挂钩:如果四只狗的伤害是60M,六只狗的伤害就是90M
2. 魔胎每六秒招一只大狗,且最多只招一只大狗。
3. 大狗的击回相当于小狗的击回之和:如果小狗击回是5k,总共六只,大狗的击回就是30k
4. 大狗的伤害是: (小狗的伤害之和)×4
计算方法:刷10次纲目,小狗平均dps约20M,换上大狗戒,平均dps月78M

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楼下评论:

So, if you use homunculous, does your one large dog get bigger/better every 4-6 seconds until it reaches the max (3-6 times depending on passives)?

问1: 如果你用魔胎,一下招成一只大狗?还是每4-6秒变大一些?

I think it doesnt scale, it just takes into account how many dogs you can have summoned and if you have at least one available/summoned. It deffinetly doesnt get bigger ingame.

答1。1:一下招一只大狗,反正游戏里面那只狗不会变大。

yes.
in addition, sacrifice will always sacrifice 1 dog, so you will be able to sacrifice 6 times in a row, good for healing one, bad for provoke the pack.

答1.2:献祭一下只能暴一只狗,所以大狗只能暴一次

Has anyone tried sacrificing it? Is the sac damage (and other rune effects) the same as sacrificing max number of dogs? If so, that is awesome. Homun + TMF + sac would be pretty sweet.

问2:有人试过献祭吗?一次是暴六只的伤害吗?

sac does not scale, the big dog only counts as one dog for the purposes of sac

答2.1:暴大狗跟暴一只小狗效果一样

Have you tested it with Grasp of the Dead (Death is Life)? Does it summon the large dog instead of summoning one little one? Does it get stronger over time as you would have summoned more?

问3:有人用过亡者之握-死即是生吗?是一次招一只大狗还是?

This is an incredible find, the grasp of life rune does summon a large dog and you can still use the GOL bug with it. Use the rune and then swap it out once you've summoned a dog, this allows me to use UHK serpent instead of homunculus.

答3.1:哥牛逼啦,发现现在有了大狗戒居然还能用GOLbug。

问3.2:你说详细点?

There is a bug where if you use the Grasp of the dead (DIL rune) you can summon a zombie dog with it and take the skill off your bar while keeping the dog active until it dies. This can be used to force summon a zombie dog without needing to use homunculus or having zombie dogs on your hotbar freeing a skill slot to use for another skill and the mojo slot to use UHK serpent for 30% mitigation.

答3.2:死即是生操作方式如下:你用死即是生符文,招了一个大狗,这时你把这个技能从技能条拿下来,这大狗只要不被打死是不会消失的。这样的话呢,你可以拿上毒蛇之类的,用死即是生招大狗,然后把死即是生换成别的技能,可以省一个技能槽,还能拿毒蛇享受30%减伤。(译注:如果不带招狗技能是没有火狗毒狗的符文效果的

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个人评论:

狗有望取代鬼娃成为另一宠物流主力,以下装备组合有想象空间:

魔胎+招狗晕1.5s祭祀刀+大狗戒+火衣+宠物头+宠物手+火伤项链+乔丹

另外已知献祭在bliz的改动列表上,现有伤害确实太低。只是现在介于有大量0cd 暴狗装备还在流通,如强化献祭,实装后会十分逆天。我个人预计献祭在天梯会有大动作。
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就喜欢你这种有理有据的帖子
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魔胎每4-6s召一只大狗? 能召几只。。
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请教,巨狗在群怪的表现如何?
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实测魔胎在狗数达到上限时不会继续召唤。带大狗戒指时只在大狗死亡/被解散时才会召唤。
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同问魔胎6S一大狗,上限能和小狗一样?
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x4伤害,简直逆天
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xiaodaoke 发表于 2014-5-14 09:19
同问魔胎6S一大狗,上限能和小狗一样?

不能,就一只大狗。
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……为何用魔胎,难道能召6只大狗么
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6只狗怎么算的,不是只能5只吗?

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kevin212  2个被动可以招3只  发表于 2014-5-14 13:18
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60的狗戒都分解了,70以后还没打出来过,希望能赶上这个潮流啊!
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hesky80 发表于 2014-5-14 09:38
6只狗怎么算的,不是只能5只吗?

更新以后会有一个被动的改动,又能多召唤一只狗,一共6只了!

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hesky80  了解!  发表于 2014-5-14 09:43
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戒指的位置换的下来?

被动3个狗的位置带的上去?
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已测试:
1.魔胎就一只大狗。请稍微编辑下第二条。不要引起不必要的误会。
2.爆狗瞬间爆掉一只大狗。不会像他们意淫的一样能爆6次
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